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Interview with Tom Biller (I Heart Huckabees, Punch-Drunk Love,
Brad Mehldau, Grant Lee Phillips)
CTom Biller is an LA-based engineer, producer and musician, and
spends insane amounts of time in the studio chasing musician and producer Jon
Brion around with tube microphones. Together they have recorded and mixed various
records and scores for films such as “I Heart Huckabees” and “Punch-Drunk
Love.” Tom’s credits also include Brad Mehldau’s “Largo,”
Rhett Miller’s “The Instigator” and Grant Lee Phillips’
“Ladies Love Oracle.”
Blue: We've heard you say that one of the reasons there are so many bad records
out there these days is that people are essentially trying to force creativity.
Let's start with talking some more about how young recordists can fall into
the trap of misinterpreting the notion of "being creative."
Tom Biller: I think people are going right for the "special of the day"
and because everyone knows how to cook it and what the ingredients are, it becomes
a bit less special, you know? I worry that since everything is there in front
of us, we won't think as
hard. Thinking stimulates creativity.
Blue: How much of this kind of thing happens because people have so many recording
tools now at their fingertips via ProTools, etc., that they almost feel obligated
to use as much of it as they can?
Tom: We are unfortunately living in a time where the technology has caught
up with the music, and may have passed it. We have always tried to record music
as "perfect" as the techniques and equipment would allow. I'm all
for that, but the process has been
de-mystified. Everyone has a computer or three, reads "Plug-ins for the
Practicing Studio Guy" magazine and knows exactly where the guy who recorded
your favorite band places his microphones and/or simulators. Again, not bad,
but...
Blue: A lot of it is based on instinct, obviously, but are there any clear-cut
signifiers that consistently come up for you in the studio that tell you, "Hey,
now's the time to experiment a bit?”
Tom: I've been blessed to work in environments that encourage this sort of
behavior, so I get to start with the mindset that I am always experimenting…and
then I don't have to think about it. There are times when I’ve asked myself,
“Could this be better," but if it feels right and everyone’s
up to it, then it’s on...
Blue: Are there blocks of time during the recording of a project set aside for
being disciplined and then for being creative or does the creative arc of a
project kind of come together as you go along? Do you ever go into a day in
the studio saying, "OK, today's the day we're gonna mess around,"
or do those moments come about naturally?
Tom: I've seen that in many cases it takes discipline to be creative, they
go together.
Things tend to come together kind of loosely based on the original plan, but
it ultimately depends on the situation -- and everybody's willingness to [experiment].
Blue: Let's talk mics a little bit -- you probably have your favorite tried
and true mics that you tend to go back to a lot, but you've also mentioned that
you try to stay away from the mindset that you should always use this mic to
record kick drum, this other mic to record backing vocals, etc., etc. How do
you keep the process of selecting mics in the studio exciting?
Tom: At the end of the day, I know that microphones can't write songs. So I'm
never too precious about mic selection. I'll figure out what mics are available
for the session, eliminate all "industry standard" mics, and start
from there. If there's time, it's good to line up all of the chosen mics and
give them a “check one, two, three...hello.” This is one of the
many things I've picked up from working with Jon; it saves time later when choosing
a mic for an instrument and also eliminates any mics that may be broken or just
don't sound good, no matter how cool it looks or how many tubes are inside.
Blue: You've mentioned that you welcome it when fresh ideas pop up in the microphone
industry, or just the recording industry in general. What are some of the things
you look for in a mic?
Tom: For most instruments, I'll choose large-diaphragm condensers over anything
else unless I'm looking for an effect from the mic. I also look for mics that
can handle high SPL's, so if you want you can get closer to the source.
Blue: Back to the creativity theme -- can you give us an instance in the studio
where an unconventional idea was suggested, all the technical pieces fell into
place, it was the right idea at the right time, and it turned out exactly as
you hoped?
Tom: As I said before, things never turn out exactly as planned. Sometimes
you can get close, though, and if everyone is open the results are usually accepted.
But using instruments for a different purpose than what they are built for,
dobros for reverb, pianos for percussion, and so on, is an exciting way of getting
unique results.
Blue: How about an instance in the studio where an unconventional idea was suggested,
all the technical pieces fell into place, it seemed like the right idea at the
right time, and it still bombed miserably?
Tom: Honestly, this happens all the time. But ultimately, if you keep pushing,
you'll get closer to the goal. Knowing what doesn't work is just as important
as knowing what will.
Blue: We'll finish by just asking you to talk about more studio experiences
that really thrived on creativity.
Tom: I recently got the chance to record a "Mighty Wurlitzer" pipe
organ. During the “Huckabees” project, Jon wanted to overdub a real
theatre organ throughout the score. So we found one built into a house in Agoura,
CA, and these things are massive -- thousands of pipes, marimbas, drums, bells,
whistles…all controlled by a massive keyboard console. Very hip. But how
do you record this thing?
I love these situations because, well, I've never recorded one before! And
I don't personally know anybody who has. So that made things super-fresh. The
owner had done some stereo DAT recordings before and had some tips, but when
I asked him if I could place mics inside the chamber of pipes he thought I was
nuts. Basically I used ten mics: six mics spread across the chamber, a pair
of tube condensers close to the front, and a stereo mic placed back in the room.
This instrument makes a giant sound and can go from very soft flute-like sounds
to an orchestral scream without warning. So I just made sure the signal chain
was clean and didn't distort too much. Then…Apple/spacebar!
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