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  • Interview with Tom Biller (I Heart Huckabees, Punch-Drunk Love, Brad Mehldau, Grant Lee Phillips)

    CTom Biller is an LA-based engineer, producer and musician, and spends insane amounts of time in the studio chasing musician and producer Jon Brion around with tube microphones. Together they have recorded and mixed various records and scores for films such as “I Heart Huckabees” and “Punch-Drunk Love.” Tom’s credits also include Brad Mehldau’s “Largo,” Rhett Miller’s “The Instigator” and Grant Lee Phillips’ “Ladies Love Oracle.”


    Blue: We've heard you say that one of the reasons there are so many bad records out there these days is that people are essentially trying to force creativity. Let's start with talking some more about how young recordists can fall into the trap of misinterpreting the notion of "being creative."

    Tom Biller: I think people are going right for the "special of the day" and because everyone knows how to cook it and what the ingredients are, it becomes a bit less special, you know? I worry that since everything is there in front of us, we won't think as
    hard. Thinking stimulates creativity.


    Blue: How much of this kind of thing happens because people have so many recording tools now at their fingertips via ProTools, etc., that they almost feel obligated to use as much of it as they can?

    Tom: We are unfortunately living in a time where the technology has caught up with the music, and may have passed it. We have always tried to record music as "perfect" as the techniques and equipment would allow. I'm all for that, but the process has been
    de-mystified. Everyone has a computer or three, reads "Plug-ins for the Practicing Studio Guy" magazine and knows exactly where the guy who recorded your favorite band places his microphones and/or simulators. Again, not bad, but...


    Blue: A lot of it is based on instinct, obviously, but are there any clear-cut signifiers that consistently come up for you in the studio that tell you, "Hey, now's the time to experiment a bit?”

    Tom: I've been blessed to work in environments that encourage this sort of behavior, so I get to start with the mindset that I am always experimenting…and then I don't have to think about it. There are times when I’ve asked myself, “Could this be better," but if it feels right and everyone’s up to it, then it’s on...


    Blue: Are there blocks of time during the recording of a project set aside for being disciplined and then for being creative or does the creative arc of a project kind of come together as you go along? Do you ever go into a day in the studio saying, "OK, today's the day we're gonna mess around," or do those moments come about naturally?

    Tom: I've seen that in many cases it takes discipline to be creative, they go together.
    Things tend to come together kind of loosely based on the original plan, but it ultimately depends on the situation -- and everybody's willingness to [experiment].


    Blue: Let's talk mics a little bit -- you probably have your favorite tried and true mics that you tend to go back to a lot, but you've also mentioned that you try to stay away from the mindset that you should always use this mic to record kick drum, this other mic to record backing vocals, etc., etc. How do you keep the process of selecting mics in the studio exciting?

    Tom: At the end of the day, I know that microphones can't write songs. So I'm never too precious about mic selection. I'll figure out what mics are available for the session, eliminate all "industry standard" mics, and start from there. If there's time, it's good to line up all of the chosen mics and give them a “check one, two, three...hello.” This is one of the many things I've picked up from working with Jon; it saves time later when choosing a mic for an instrument and also eliminates any mics that may be broken or just don't sound good, no matter how cool it looks or how many tubes are inside.


    Blue: You've mentioned that you welcome it when fresh ideas pop up in the microphone industry, or just the recording industry in general. What are some of the things you look for in a mic?

    Tom: For most instruments, I'll choose large-diaphragm condensers over anything else unless I'm looking for an effect from the mic. I also look for mics that can handle high SPL's, so if you want you can get closer to the source.


    Blue: Back to the creativity theme -- can you give us an instance in the studio where an unconventional idea was suggested, all the technical pieces fell into place, it was the right idea at the right time, and it turned out exactly as you hoped?

    Tom: As I said before, things never turn out exactly as planned. Sometimes you can get close, though, and if everyone is open the results are usually accepted. But using instruments for a different purpose than what they are built for, dobros for reverb, pianos for percussion, and so on, is an exciting way of getting unique results.


    Blue: How about an instance in the studio where an unconventional idea was suggested, all the technical pieces fell into place, it seemed like the right idea at the right time, and it still bombed miserably?

    Tom: Honestly, this happens all the time. But ultimately, if you keep pushing, you'll get closer to the goal. Knowing what doesn't work is just as important as knowing what will.

    Blue: We'll finish by just asking you to talk about more studio experiences that really thrived on creativity.

    Tom: I recently got the chance to record a "Mighty Wurlitzer" pipe organ. During the “Huckabees” project, Jon wanted to overdub a real theatre organ throughout the score. So we found one built into a house in Agoura, CA, and these things are massive -- thousands of pipes, marimbas, drums, bells, whistles…all controlled by a massive keyboard console. Very hip. But how do you record this thing?

    I love these situations because, well, I've never recorded one before! And I don't personally know anybody who has. So that made things super-fresh. The owner had done some stereo DAT recordings before and had some tips, but when I asked him if I could place mics inside the chamber of pipes he thought I was nuts. Basically I used ten mics: six mics spread across the chamber, a pair of tube condensers close to the front, and a stereo mic placed back in the room. This instrument makes a giant sound and can go from very soft flute-like sounds to an orchestral scream without warning. So I just made sure the signal chain was clean and didn't distort too much. Then…Apple/spacebar!

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